Franklin was introduced too early in the fantastic four and he should be killed off in doomsday or secret wars

Probably an unpopular opinion but Franklin should ve killed off in Doomsday or secret wars

An brutal graphic death of an baby by doom's actions would show the real sakes at play and ruthlessness of Doom, and show a different side, the fantastic four needs to be a long term team

Later on in the MCU, maybe they can make another Franklin, or reveal he wasn't the true Franklin or something and we will get too see further development of the fantastic four

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PotentialAnt96702025-12-01 23:53

I'll take "Unecessary brutality to children" for $400, Alex

DRH1182025-12-01 23:53

They're not killing a fuckin baby

Turbulent-Spirit-5682025-12-01 23:54

Damn, this got dark...

TipAdditional46252025-12-01 23:55

But it will make a great story and set up future things

PotentialAnt96702025-12-01 23:59

Dude you would love "The Crossed"

AccomplishedLayer8842025-12-02 00:00

No one’s gonna want to see those after seeing a child get murdered in screen. This is a comic book movie not Terrifier.

TipAdditional46252025-12-02 00:02

And comics aren't all happy ending fairy tales, that would be an insult too the audience intelligence, marvel is bigger then that. He needs to go

AccomplishedLayer8842025-12-02 00:16

You can do a bittersweet/bad ending without this edge-lord bullshit. In fact Marvel has literally done it with Infinity War and No Way Home.

If anything what you’re suggesting is an even bigger insult to audience’s intelligence because you’re saying that no one will take Doom seriously unless he murders a child (which would be insanely out of character for him) when other villains such as Avengers 1’s Loki and Darth Vader were just as menacing without murdering children

TipAdditional46252025-12-02 00:20

I never said you have too murder the kid too get Doom to be taken seriously

AccomplishedLayer8842025-12-02 00:25

“An brutal graphic death of an baby by doom's actions would show the real sakes at play and ruthlessness of Doom”

Took this directly from your second paragraph.

TipAdditional46252025-12-02 00:33

Yes I said you don't have too....but it would be a brilliant way to do it and solve problems and set up charcter development and plot lines

Delicious_Series38692025-12-02 00:47

No, it wouldn’t be brilliant at all. Not sure why you’ve tricked yourself into believing you cooked here. Makes absolutely no sense, in any reality.

AccomplishedLayer8842025-12-02 00:57

You are aware that killing ANY of the four would be just as if not more effective right? Plus you take away the potential plot-line and character development of Franklin if you just kill him off.

TipAdditional46252025-12-02 01:20

The fantastic four have to be one of the main pillers of the future of the MCU especially Reed

spidervenom6192025-12-02 00:03

...By Handicapping the First Family story?

PJL802025-12-01 23:54

Well, I'm never using you for babysitting that's for damn sure.

kneeco282025-12-01 23:56

> brutal graphic death of an baby

This website is fucking FREE, y'all.

Single-Pianist-22112025-12-01 23:56

They’re not going to kill a child like that in a pg-13 Disney Marvel movie 🙄🙄🙄

I’m predicting Franklin will be used by Doom to resurrect himself after Thor kills him

TipAdditional46252025-12-01 23:59

Ok it doesn't have to be brutal or graphic but he needs to be gone

YesSir6262025-12-02 00:02

Thor isn’t getting anywhere near killing Doom. It’d be the other way around to show how powerful Doom is. Doom has a hammer and star on his suit so I’m guessing he’ll kill Thor and Captain Marvel (probably variants though)

Single-Pianist-22112025-12-02 00:08

What I said is my prediction. I think Thor is getting a power boost in this movie, and to ensure the power boost is not immediately undercut, I think they will once again have Thor in a “win but not win” scenario like with Thanos.

Doom would have planned for the exact circumstance and coached Franklin for this exact purpose, making Doom a psychopath that will even use a child as a tool to achieve his ends. It also makes Doom the most formidable villain ever that even killing him isn’t enough to stop him.

YesSir6262025-12-02 00:45

It’ll be very boring if Thor saves the day again. Or if Wanda redeems herself by beating Doom. In fact I don’t think anyone will actually beat Doom in the movie, it’s a two parter for a reason.

Single-Pianist-22112025-12-02 00:52

Thor has been treated like absolute crap the past few appearances. Thor and Thor fans deserve the victory. It’s not boring to let the heroic character get a heroic moment….how boring would it be if Doom just crushed everyone effortlessly?

The whole reason Thanos was such a formidable villain and infinity war was such a tragedy was because there were so many times the heroes *almost* beat him but messed up or just couldn’t quite stick the landing.

And don’t worry, Wanda is not even gonna be in Doomsday lol

YesSir6262025-12-02 03:53

His era is over. The original Avengers are done, I hope he doesn’t die but he definitely has run his course. It’s time for new people to be the heroes. People need to move on, that’s why the past movies have failed (even the good ones like Thunderbolts and FF). If fresh blood never has a chance to shine Marvel will stagnate

Single-Pianist-22112025-12-02 05:52

Thor 5 has already been greenlit, so obviously not done with him yet

YesSir6262025-12-02 06:59

I know they’re not done, but they should finish his story soon. Make way for new heroes. Thor can’t always save the day

Single-Pianist-22112025-12-02 07:20

He should get to go out strong considering he’s one of the last OG Avengers. His final few appearances should be the best we’ve ever seen him.

BartleBossy2025-12-01 23:57

> An brutal graphic death of an baby by doom's actions would show the real sakes at play and ruthlessness of Doom

The death of a baby doesnt have to be violent or graphic, in fact, doing so would rob the moment of its *weight* in place of shock value.

Ngl though, it would instantly make Doom a singular villain in the MCU.

All of that said, I think this is a terrible idea...

> Later on in the MCU, maybe they can make another Franklin, or reveal he wasn't the true Franklin or something and we will get too see further development of the fantastic four

.. For this exact reason.

Doing things knowing that youre going to undo them in the future is just *bad writing*. It makes the universe feel like consequences dont matter.

If youre going to have the fucking cajones to worf/fridge Franklin Richards, have the fucking stones to stand by your decision.

TipAdditional46252025-12-01 23:58

Ok then screw the fake Franklin idea, just kill him off for good

nisamun2025-12-02 00:01

Just kill off one of the most powerful beings...sure.

impuritor2025-12-02 00:01

Loser edge lord take

spidervenom6192025-12-02 00:03

...Wrong Child Death, it's should Morgan Stark, not freaking Franklin that Doom kills if he's killing any children.

SgtMartinRiggs2025-12-02 00:03

No I’d rather not have child murder in an avengers movie. Do you actually think this is something they’d do?

Also the whole “it’s not the real ____, we’ll meet the real one later on” is a fan idea/theory that gets posted before like every superhero movie and it has never happened. Is not-the-real-Doom gonna kill not-the-real-Franklin?

DarthGayAgenda2025-12-02 00:03

How do we know Franklin isn't an important part of Doom's plan? We literally know next to nothing about the upcoming movies, so how do we say a character is too early if we don't know the specifics of the storyline being told? Not to mention how the Fantastic Four movie ended.

Falkor2025-12-02 00:05

Woh woh woh.. we don't do that here!

Rofellos19842025-12-02 00:11

Let me get this straight. You're expecting *Disney* to have a villain murder a child on screen in a film that will most likely be aiming for a PG-13 rating?

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TipAdditional46252025-12-02 00:18

It doesn't have too be physically shown or graphic

Mistic-Instinct2025-12-02 00:15

Yikes

RihoSucks2025-12-02 00:19

Jesus 🤦‍♂️

Wooden-Radish-90082025-12-02 00:30

Edgelord final boss

Gorguf622025-12-02 00:48

Calm down Anakin.

labbla2025-12-02 00:54

Ah yes, I always turn to Marvel movies for brutal baby death.

Neckrolls4life2025-12-02 01:20

This is a BLAZING HOT take!

Kudos to you for putting it out there.

That being said, a billion dollar franchise is not going to murder a baby for any reason ever.

TipAdditional46252025-12-02 09:32

I mean Got...did more crazy shit

Neckrolls4life2025-12-02 10:35

It did, but that show set a tone where pushing kids out of tower windows was established episode one. The MCU has done nothing like that and the tone it has set wouldn't allow for infanticide to be accepted for any reason by the audience.

eagc72025-12-02 01:24

SeekerVash2025-12-02 01:48

You do realize that's an instant ban in a fair bit of the EU, China, and Australia right?

It's also likely an NC18 rating un the US.

TipAdditional46252025-12-02 01:49

That's nonsense

JyconX2025-12-02 04:40

Seriously? Your idea of "real stakes" would be for Reed's and Sue's baby son to die?! That's just... WAY TOO MUCH.

Champagnekudo2025-12-03 05:16

No but I agree they shouldn’t have introduced Franklin but only because I find him to be a boring character that people only care about because he’s ridiculously over powered. Valeria Richards is the real true GOAT. Would’ve worked for movies about DOOM too. Of course they would’ve had to actually plan all this out though and they didn’t so.

JBtheCape2025-12-16 17:44

Franklin is one of the most powerful people in the marvel universe. He ain't dying 😂